tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-41327282012-01-09T07:45:47.995-08:00A weblog dedicated to the exposure of the crackpots of the lunatic self-styled 'traditionalist' fringe who disingenuously pose as faithful Catholics.Shawnnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4261100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-16308284508140494962009-02-23T07:25:00.000-08:002009-02-23T08:06:21.505-08:00

Though this weblog has been suspended "in perpetuity" for quite some time now{1}, recent news did give me a reason to post one small update to it for the sake of avoiding any possible confusion. The story worth reporting since this weblog's indefinite suspension is Pope Benedict XVI's lifting of the suspensions of the 4 Bishops of the SSPX. I wrote on the matter the other day at Rerum Novarum in

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-81154713005392495912007-07-21T18:00:00.000-07:002007-07-22T13:58:38.327-07:00

After pondering this in recent days, I cannot think of anything I could add to what I said on July 6, 2007 when I announced this weblog would be closing as of July 21, 2007. So for those who have not seen that posting, I direct you to it now and want to make a few additions to what is noted there.First of all, I am glad that this weblog was able to serve the purpose with which I intended it for

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-49518241341458835072007-07-19T15:37:00.000-07:002007-07-19T15:38:10.807-07:00

Points to Ponder:I now come to the positive reason which motivated my decision to issue this Motu Proprio updating that of 1988. It is a matter of coming to an interior reconciliation in the heart of the Church. Looking back over the past, to the divisions which in the course of the centuries have rent the Body of Christ, one continually has the impression that, at critical moments when divisions

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-58801821721149232102007-07-19T15:32:00.000-07:002007-07-19T15:36:18.302-07:00

"One From the Drafting Board" Dept.The material in this posting was originally gathered together in draft form on November 27, 2004 but for reasons I cannot recall at the moment was not at that time posted. It was later gathered together into another draft on October 15, 2005 and once again was not posted. Finally, it was prepared in a third draft on August 22, 2006 for posting and missed being

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-66821677790482819002007-07-19T14:53:00.000-07:002007-07-19T15:31:50.501-07:00

Before this weblog is formally closed in perpetuity{1}, it seems appropriate to point out to readers that the position taken by the webmaster on the subject of the term "subsists" (Lat. subsistare) as the proper description of the relationship of the Catholic Church to the one church of Christ as it is constituted and organized in the world as a visible society. We clarified this matter seven

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-57626930292927456332007-07-18T20:37:00.000-07:002007-07-18T15:41:08.858-07:00

On Altar Girls and General Norms of Interpretation:The following is the text of an email received earlier this month last month and to which I responded to recently. The interlocuter's words will be in dark green font.Hello Mrs. XXXXX XXXXX:This is a response to your email dealing only with the root issue involved. Nonetheless...Your statement on Altar Girls that it "was never anything

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-40647441042471339292007-07-18T18:39:00.000-07:002007-07-18T18:47:29.583-07:00

Final ReflectionsI would like to thank Shawn McElhinney for inviting me to become part of this blog. I have learned a lot since I have been here. Dealing with radical traditionalists allowed me to verify once again my experience with Christ. My encounter with Christ was an event, a presence, a Person who revealed Himself to me as the truth my heart has been yearning for. I have not lost the

Aphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04226017144967122488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-28571434463049085222007-07-08T18:20:00.000-07:002007-07-09T11:57:07.032-07:00

On Juridical Abrogation of the 1962 Missal:[Prefatory Note: This post needs to be read and understood in congruence with the one I posted back on July 6, 2007 to this humble weblog. The latter can be read HERE. -ISM]In reading a commentary on the new motu proprio from Jimmy Akin, I was struck by something he said in his attempt to interpret the legislative text about the legal standing of the

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-72203525067200556002007-07-06T19:10:00.000-07:002007-07-06T20:50:49.116-07:00

This weblog for the lions share of the past year and a half has been so far down on the list of my writing priorities{1} that it is not even funny. I post this now as a short note to cover a couple of points in brief:--Tomorrow will be the release of Pope Benedict XVI's Apostolic Letter Summorum Pontificum and an expected loosening of the papal keys of the liturgical usage of the Tridentine

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-79653643593327080402007-05-21T13:38:00.000-07:002007-05-21T13:42:55.816-07:00

Points to Ponder:(On Vatican II)"Whatever were our opinions about the Council’s various doctrines before its conclusions were promulgated, today our adherence to the decisions of the Council must be wholehearted and without reserve..."The council was something very new; not all were prepared to understand and accept it. But now the conciliar doctrines must be seen as belonging to the magisterium

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-75282218906514684652007-03-23T15:25:00.000-07:002007-03-24T20:15:57.023-07:00

Henrik Hassen's "Picture Proof" of My "Complicity With "World Zionism" Exposed!!He claimed to have the proof and in fact did this numerous times. Here are the pictures that were supplied:He sent them demanding an explanation and for once, I cannot provide one. At least not one that does not sound so strained as to lack all credibility. Guess I am going to have to shut this blog down now having

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-80174520170201620122007-02-15T17:10:00.001-08:002007-02-15T17:11:59.513-08:00

Henrik Hassen's supposed "irrefutable proof" of my "complicity with 'World Zionism'":LINK

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-14333619485302490142006-12-30T14:28:00.000-08:002007-01-23T19:36:18.581-08:00

"Hassan Chop" Dept.Yes folks, we have a third note{1} from Henrik Hassan to post. Rather than duplicate it here as with previous threads, I will merely link to the Rerum Novarum thread with this notification.Note:{1} The first two notes can be read here and here for those who have not seen them yet.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1164240713940851762006-11-22T16:11:00.000-08:002006-12-30T14:32:12.602-08:00

"None Dare Call It A Zionist Conspiracy" Dept.(With no apologies to Gary Allen)With that title, we have a resumption of a thread started here and a followup note from someone accusing me of "zionist complicity: or whatever. I will let them explain it in their own words so here goes...Mr. McElhinney, One could only wish that you were as concerned about the heinous Zionist influence in the Catholic

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1163469987807249362006-11-13T17:59:00.000-08:002006-11-22T16:37:48.336-08:00

"None Dare Call It A Zionist Conspiracy" Dept.(With no apologies to Gary Allen)Right when I think I am content to let this weblog remain in archive form and not add to it any longer, something like this comes my way:Mr. McIlhenny, I am aware that you and others like you are either in a deep state of denial about the Jewish conspiracies that abound world-wide or you are yourselves directly

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1159495707633618622006-09-28T19:08:00.000-07:002006-09-28T19:12:07.760-07:00

"U Thant Touch This" Dept.[Note: This thread was posted earlier today at Rerum Novarum. -ISM 9/28/06 7:05pm]I wanted to note here briefly that the posting from September 9th has been updated in light of two more recent developments. For those who are interested in the whole Sungenis saga, I refer you to that subject here where some of the subsequent developments can be noted. For those who do not

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1158005292903100262006-09-11T12:39:00.000-07:002006-09-11T13:08:13.050-07:00

On Ecumenism and Clearing Up Certain Presumed Inconsistencies:(A Response to John TOP)This was posted to Friends of La Nef yesterday. -ISM]Prefatory Note:In light of Joe's recent piece on ecumenism and catechesis, I decided to respond to someone in the comments box of that thread by digging into my writing archives and pulling up some of the material I wrote years ago on the whole subject of

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1157836968052308492006-09-09T14:21:00.000-07:002006-09-09T15:20:39.123-07:00

A Post of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers:(From Rerum Novarum)On Robert Sungenis and the Jews

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1156294904976519402006-08-22T17:54:00.000-07:002006-08-22T18:02:07.743-07:00

"One From the Vault" Dept.;(Dialogue with Fr. Thomas Carleton on the Rosary and Private Prayer)The following text was completed in October of 2005 but for reasons I cannot recall at the moment was not published. Anyway, since nothing has been posted to this weblog in a while, it seems appropriate to tweak the thread and post it now since the subject involved (prayer and how to pray) is hardly one

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1152835906299192822006-07-13T17:09:00.000-07:002006-07-13T17:22:45.906-07:00

Myths or Misperceptions on the Liturgy:(With Kevin Tierney)[Prefatory Note: This text (except for a few minor tweaks) was written on or before June 28, 2006. -ISM]Recently, Kevin decided to respond to a response I wrote to one of his pieces some time ago. This will be an interaction with his latest response...his words will be in black font, my previous words (as quoted by him) in blue font.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1150423440938463822006-06-15T19:02:00.000-07:002006-06-15T19:04:00.950-07:00

Points to Ponder:(On Church Infallibility Extending Beyond Matters of De Fide Dogma)"The Church is infallible in her general discipline. By the term general discipline is understood the laws and practices which belong to the external ordering of the whole Church. Such things would be those which concern either external worship, such as liturgy and rubrics, or the administration of the sacraments.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1149041614380747272006-05-30T19:04:00.000-07:002006-12-30T14:38:48.303-08:00

Kevin Tierney writes an open letter to Jacob Michael taking issue with the latter's ambiguous stance viz. the Society of St. Pius XHopefully, Jacob will make the time to respond to Kevin's questions to him.[Update: Jacob has since this writing seen the errors of his previous position and has resumed full communion with the Catholic Church. -ISM 12/30/06]

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1148347192193810722006-05-22T17:57:00.000-07:002006-05-22T18:34:02.906-07:00

"Ready, Fire, Aim" Dept.(Correcting A Misrepresentation of My Position)It was pointed out to me that the following was said about me and this weblog in an email sent from some Thomas Herron fella to Matthew Anger. Having no time nor desire to fight their battles for them (since they are more than capable of it themselves), I will reproduce and comment only on the part where I am mentioned

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1148345632588872792006-05-22T16:12:00.001-07:002006-05-23T18:29:32.483-07:00

On Liturgical Issues, the "Superiority" of Certain Liturgies, Etc.:(With Kevin Tierney)This will be an interaction with part of a series that Kevin Tierney is working on at his website. But before getting to the parts I want to critique, it will be necessary to understand a difference in the manner whereby Kevin and I use certain terms. For example, we have obvious differences in how we approach

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1145125907370606822006-04-15T11:01:00.000-07:002006-04-18T14:11:31.233-07:00

Briefly on the Armenian Decree:As this text was judged as too long for putting into the comments boxes, I am posting it here as a thread. Jim Scott's words will be in black font and any sources I cite in darkblue.The prohibition against observing Old Testament ceremonies is found in session 11 of Florence however a brief reading of the Catholic Encylopedia will revieve ONLY session Six considered

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1144534224270693812006-04-08T14:54:00.000-07:002007-03-06T10:58:01.247-08:00

Bits and Pieces on the "Counter-Syllabus" Controversy:(With Kevin Tierney)This is basically parts of a chat I had with Kevin a few days ago. The pretext was the Tom DeLay situation initially but eventually it veered into other subjects including one of my past writings. Kevin's words will be black font.fidelity to principles [can be an annoyance] but without it, what do we have left?i just think

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1141681949837087572006-03-06T13:45:00.000-08:002006-03-06T13:55:44.550-08:00

"One From the Vault" Dept.(On Cantante Domino and the Synods of Florence)This is from a discussion list thread circa December of 2004. The parties I was discussing this with shall remain anonymous and their words will be in varying coloured fonts. Any sources cited by yours truly will be in dark blue font.MMMMM and I had discussed this before. I think that Pope Eugenius IV was merely saying that

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1141681471263964032006-03-06T13:43:00.000-08:002006-03-06T13:44:31.276-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers:"Vreebird" Dept.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1141271249078993372006-03-01T19:46:00.000-08:002006-03-01T19:47:29.090-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers:On IHS Press, Potential Fascist Connections, Antisemitism, Etc.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1141184687381397322006-02-28T19:42:00.000-08:002006-02-28T19:44:47.393-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers:The Remnant and CFN: The Pro Schism Party (Kevin M. Tierney)Of course readers of this weblog know that your humble webmaster and his associate inquisitors are not surprised by this at all. Nonetheless, it bears noting and Kevin's material above handles it more than adequately; ergo the present writer sees no reason to comment on it

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1140376138492150032006-02-19T11:08:00.000-08:002006-02-21T04:33:47.763-08:00

Is Dale Vree endagering his eternal salvation?Revised: Actually, Ed Peters makes a good point. If I'm going to criticize the manner by which Vree goes around picking intellectual street-fights, I need to avoid using the same type of polemic. Therefore, I've gone through the following post and edited out as much as possible.That being said, I honestly am concerned about the state of Dale Vree's

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1140097823111804642006-02-16T05:49:00.000-08:002007-07-19T15:30:57.040-07:00

New Oxford Review - ChickenHawks of the Culture WarLast year, Canadian author and orthodox Catholic Michael O'Brien penned the following essay in which he warned the homosexual agenda was leading to a new totalitarianism in Canada:http://studiobrien.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=105&Itemid=69If you live in Canada, you can sympathize with O'Brien. We are shouldering

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1141154446548040382006-02-14T15:14:00.000-08:002006-02-28T11:21:21.690-08:00

Pope Ratzinger Certifies the Council – The Real OneIt is nice to see (as usual) such a significant convergence between myself and the pope on Vatican II :) One small bit may appear (in light of what I have written in the past) to be problematical in the above text and it is this one:By defining in a new way the relationship between the faith of the Church and some essential elements of modern

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1139959513160738562006-02-14T15:07:00.000-08:002006-02-28T11:27:25.343-08:00

Open Forum:Since the subject matter originally covered in the post that was once here basically was passed over for a kind of "open forum" of sorts, I decided to transfer the contents of this post to another thread and make this one officially an open forum by virtue of my authority as Sovereign Thane and Lord High Executioner of The Lidless Eye Inquisition. The only real rules are the usual ones

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1139617998435363022006-02-10T16:32:00.000-08:002006-02-10T16:33:18.446-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1139088469454637022006-02-04T13:26:00.000-08:002006-02-05T14:19:11.330-08:00

Clarifying Some Points Viz. My Viewpoint:Shawn,Someone just gave me a heads up...apparently you are a topic of conversation at CAI. It's not the worst I've ever seen, but certainly not positive, either. It would seem the LEI cease fire is unilateral....Though there is currently a truce between LEI and CAI, apparently Ben Douglass was not informed of it by Bob. (Which I do not blame him for as

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138847690077803892006-02-01T18:34:00.000-08:002007-09-16T23:33:44.474-07:00

"One From the Mailbag" Dept.This is in response to a widely circulated email which I was cc'ed on as well as the pope.{1} The sources quoted will be in darkblue font with inset sources in blue font. Any inset comments apart from the originally sent thread will be in purple font.Hello AAA:It should be noted that my conclusion is a logical deduction based on the statement of Bishop Gasser which (I

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138846520624014532006-02-01T18:13:00.000-08:002006-02-01T19:21:46.436-08:00

Quo Primum and the Latin Mass (Dialogue Between Kevin M. Tierney and Charles Martin)This may be even better than the two Kevin articles I posted in recent days. The reasons are twofold (i) Charles is so much more pleasing to interact with than Christopher Ferrara and the Remnant bunch and (ii) Kevin actually achieves something in the above article that is as rare as hen teeth. That rarity my

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138767140672477072006-01-31T20:04:00.000-08:002006-01-31T21:03:07.110-08:00

SSPX MeetingA lot of people are asking me about it. This is not the time for gossip and rumour-mongering. Catholics on both sides of the traditionalist divide need to fast and pray over the next week. I will be praying specifically for my fellow traditionalists at Sacred Heart Church in Mancelona, MI.

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138399907370417682006-01-27T14:04:00.000-08:002006-01-27T14:11:47.386-08:00

Keith Kenney's Commentary on the Preface of the Roman Missal's Second Eucharistic Anaphora is well done.I really am glad he is a contributor to this humble weblog. Anaphora 2 is admittedly one that I believe should not be used on Sundays or Holy Days except (perhaps) in the case of an elderly priest or one who is infirm. Nonetheless, hopefully Keith will finish that commentary soon.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138394999349058442006-01-27T12:49:00.000-08:002006-01-27T12:49:59.363-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Inquisition Readers

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138321403583650152006-01-26T16:21:00.000-08:002006-01-31T17:18:58.506-08:00

Kevin Tierney's recent commentary on the sad state of The Remnant.Basically it involves another exercise of the logical fallacy of questionable premise (to put it mildly) though not on Kevin's part.[Update: Here is the second part of his commentary on The Remnant: Playing With Fire - ISM 1/31/06 5:00pm]

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138307475514704342006-01-26T12:30:00.000-08:002006-01-26T12:31:15.516-08:00

Open Forum:As I have done in months past, this is a continuation of the open forum idea where people can talk about whatever they want and have a bit of a free-for-all without as much concern for being congruent to the post they comment on. The only real rules are the usual ones for conduct (including avoiding name calling) and avoiding posting spam (do not even think about it) or lengthy tracts

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138307113868761172006-01-26T12:21:00.000-08:002006-01-27T12:24:56.176-08:00

The ever-reliable grapevine has informed me of some breaking news pertaining to Robert Sungenis which has compelled me to once again reinstate the truce between LEI and CAI previously proposed by Pete Vere and confirmed by me in forma specifica which subsisted on this weblog for three months up to the time of the posting on the twenty-fourth. For that reason, the previous Sungenis-related thread

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138306652175396842006-01-26T12:17:00.000-08:002006-01-26T12:18:23.200-08:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition (Part VI):I originally noted when posting the fifth part of a weblog update back in October of 2005 that [t]he next installment in this series will be posted sometime in November. Obviously that did not happen for reasons too numerous to go into here but I did collect the threads at the time for that endeavour. What is posted here is the sixth part of the

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1138232745483814142006-01-24T13:36:00.000-08:002006-01-27T12:22:13.703-08:00

The thread originally posted here has been transferred to the drafts folder for posting at another time. My reasons for doing this to some extent are summarized in what was posted subsequent to this thread and that is all I intend to say publicly on the matter at this time.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1135903117939042662005-12-29T16:38:00.000-08:002005-12-29T16:38:37.956-08:00

Cyprian, Tertullian, Ecclesiology, and the Anglican Divines, Etc.(Dialogue With Kevin Tierney)This is a continuation of various threads in one of the comments boxes between Kevin and your humble weblog host on the subjects as noted above. (Time contraints prevents me from finding and linking to them all.) Kevin's words will be in black font and his quoting of previous statements of mine will be

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1135430954766917272005-12-24T05:28:00.000-08:002005-12-24T05:29:14.780-08:00

The Gifts Not Under the TreeA merry Christ Mass to you all, and thanks for your prayers during this election campaign. It has been so intense that it will be nice to have a week off to spend with family. As I do every year, I wrote a Christ Mass essay. This year's essay is a tribute to a Catholic gentleman named Raymond. It borrows its title from an old New Covenant article called The Gifts

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1134895485281167002005-12-18T00:43:00.000-08:002005-12-18T00:44:45.293-08:00

The Organic Development of the Sacred LiturgyI've been musing over this issue for the past couple weeks as I prepare to launch into my commentary of Eucharistics Prayer II at my own blog Sancta Liturgia. I must confess upfront that it was far easier reading the plethora of commentary on liturgical forms before the reform of H.H. Pope Paul VI of blessed memory. Really all that it entailed was

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1134509444314591332005-12-13T16:00:00.000-08:002007-07-09T11:57:35.872-07:00

Revisiting the Latin Mass 1995 Cardinal Stickler Interview:This is a revisiting of sorts (in hopefully a more compact fashion) of a subject I wrote on at Rerum Novarum and this weblog in September of 2003. And while it is advisable to review that thread before reading this one, strictly speaking it is not necessary to do so. The aim of this thread is narrower and to deal with what many perceive

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1134134729049418432005-12-09T05:15:00.000-08:002005-12-09T05:25:29.060-08:00

Sedevacantists are less extreme than Lefebvrists, part 756839I really ought to be on the campaign trail, however, Fr. Cekada just forwarded me his latest response to Chris Ferrara and the Remnant. It is called "Resisting the Pope, Sedevacantism and Frakenchurch". It is a great of example of sedevacantism NOT being as extreme as Lefebvrism or other resistance positions. While I vehemently

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1132497946047861452005-11-20T06:45:00.000-08:002005-11-20T06:45:46.060-08:00

Break From Blogging and Canon Law CourseEven our prime minister has admitted that Canada's government will likely fall within the next month, if not weeks. I've been asked to take on some pretty heavy local responsibilities in this election. This comes as I am putting the final polish on lectures for a distance education course on canon law that Catholic Distance University invited me to write (

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1132279437627045522005-11-17T18:03:00.000-08:002005-11-17T18:08:11.886-08:00

Open Forum:As I have done in months past, this is a continuation of the open forum idea where people can talk about whatever they want and have a bit of a free-for-all without as much concern for being congruent to the post they comment on. The only real rules are the usual ones for conduct (including avoiding name calling) and avoiding posting spam (do not even think about it) or lengthy tracts

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131832064247922822005-11-12T13:47:00.000-08:002005-11-12T13:47:44.256-08:00

Surprised by EWTNFor all those who wonder just how geeky I really am (name one other northerner who would set up his indoor firing range next to his computer so that he can target practice while writing articles about canon law), please check out EWTN Bookmark this week.  Doug Keck and and I will be discussing Surprised by Canon Law.

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131738675852542912005-11-11T11:42:00.000-08:002005-11-11T11:51:15.863-08:00

Is Gerry a Sedevacantist?The Dimond Brothers RespondAs most of you know, the Dimond brothers now claim that Gerry Matatics is a sedevacantist. Not convinced by their claim, I fired off the following email to them yesterday:Dear Brothers Peter and Michael,How can you conclude, based on his initial email to you, that "there is no doubt that Gerry is a sedevacantist?" After all, most

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131673334834935002005-11-10T17:29:00.000-08:002005-11-10T17:42:14.846-08:00

An Open Letter to Mr. Gerry Wells in Defense of Gerry MataticsGeesh, today must be indy chapel day. All my most interesting email is coming from readers who attend so-called independent chapels. For those who were wondering where to find a copy of what was probably the most well-known letter written in defense of Gerry Matatics, one of my indy chapel readers found it. Here's a couple of the

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131666534262693612005-11-10T15:40:00.000-08:002005-11-10T15:49:52.090-08:00

Siri-Vacantism?Okay, I cannot believe that I didn't think of this one. If what is said in the following email checks out, then I may in fact owe Sungenis and Keating an apology:cher dr. vere,i attend an indy chapel in california with sedevacantist leanings. we sometimes see m. matatics here. i assure you he is no sedeprivationist. i think he supports the siri thesis.Can anyone confirm this?

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131649359325587432005-11-10T10:34:00.000-08:002005-11-10T11:02:39.343-08:00

Fr. Feeney was too Liberal!(Matatics Reportedly Clarifies His Clarification of His Clarification)Okay, this is why I much prefer disagreeing with Sungenis. The language may be brutal between us at times, however, at least I know what the disagreement is about. Can anyone decipher what is being said in this latest reported email to the Dimond brothers?Anyway, here are some of the more

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131582082131500222005-11-09T14:30:00.000-08:002005-11-09T18:23:52.890-08:00

Kevin Tierney Not Wanted at So-Called "Traditionalist" Sites Like AngelQueen(And That Goes Double for So-Called "Moonbats" Like Shawn McElhinney)I suppose the title might get one wondering: "Huh?" Yet this is exactly the attitude lately portrayed at the SSPX sympathetic forum AngelQueen, as Kevin Tierney found out. He's posted his commentary on these happenings at his blog. I thought I'd give it

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131571912283319772005-11-09T13:28:00.000-08:002005-11-09T13:40:29.003-08:00

Open Forum:As I have done in months past, this is a continuation of the open forum idea where people can talk about whatever they want and have a bit of a free-for-all without as much concern for being congruent to the post they comment on. The only real rules are the usual ones for conduct (including avoiding name calling) and avoiding posting spam (do not even think about it). Other than that,

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131571549553792862005-11-09T13:23:00.000-08:002005-11-09T13:26:17.446-08:00

On St. Robert Bellarmine and Papal Heresy:It seems appropriate to post this as a thread in its own right so that the Matatics thread below can stay properly focused. Without further ado...Apolonio: My Church history is admittedly weak, but...I believe there were once three claimants to the Papacy. Different saints believed different Popes to be the true Pope. Some of them were wrong.Correct. That

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131472064535845852005-11-08T09:19:00.000-08:002005-11-08T13:35:19.996-08:00

Maybe Gerry should get a job?With regards to the Matatics situation, a couple people have raised the issue about his wife and children. Basically, if Gerry's fundraising letters are to be believed, Catholic apologetics is how he provides for his wife and family. So the question is... how will Gerry provide if he is pushed out because of this whole sede controversy?Maybe he can get a job.Look, I

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131398011482334352005-11-07T13:05:00.000-08:002005-11-07T16:31:27.580-08:00

Miscellaneous Musings:(On the Types of People Who Annoy Me)I have been doing some private reflecting in recent weeks upon different personality sorts and how some do not interact well with others. The whole subject resulted in me musing a bit on the types of people who personally annoy me. There are three in particular and I decided to write briefly on them for the benefit of readers of this

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131338368253454622005-11-06T19:54:00.000-08:002005-11-06T20:39:28.266-08:00

Public Jury on HoldIt appears that the idea of approaching Gerry Matatics with a public jury (to help clarify his views) has been put on hold for the time being. New rumors and allegations are now coming to light, and the situation is just one big mess. What makes this set of allegations interesting is that they are not coming from Novus Ordo Catholics but from fellow traditionalists.It appears

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130982876943751802005-11-03T17:30:00.000-08:002005-11-03T19:01:36.520-08:00

On the Use of Labels:(Dialogue With Kevin Tierney)This post is taken from a thread which Kevin and I interacted on back in late September at the Envoy message board with some very minor tweaking made to it. My words will be in regular font except for my previous words in the thread which will be in blue. Kevin's previous words will be in darkgreen font and any previous words of his in additional

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1131043824701769532005-11-03T10:35:00.000-08:002005-11-03T11:55:01.673-08:00

Jury DutyLooks like the idea of having Gerry present and defend his views before a public jury of peers has received some positive initial feedback. I've received enough initial interest to potentially fill every role on the proposed jury except sedevacantist rep. There's still some other details to be ironed out, but everyone seems to agree this is the best way to approach the issue of where

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130983815421897242005-11-02T17:57:00.000-08:002005-11-02T18:12:36.853-08:00

"Guess the People Who Said These Things" Dept.(On the United Nations)Of course by noting that the subject is the UN, I have already given quite a hint as to the timeframe of these quotes. Nonetheless, the readers are asked to guess who said each of the following statements. Without further ado...Statement #1:Who advocated in 1945 "an organ invested by common consent with supreme power to whose

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130982946082741872005-11-02T17:54:00.000-08:002005-11-02T17:55:46.096-08:00

A Link of Possible Interest for Lidless Eye Readers:Holy Souls Mass Registration List

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130848112894398292005-11-01T04:02:00.000-08:002005-11-01T06:07:14.773-08:00

Matatics Reportedly Not a Feeneyite AfterallI don't think I'm breaking the letter or the spirit of the truce by pointing out that there are many issues where Sungenis and I have sharp differences. There's a simple reason for this. I know where Sungenis stands on issue A, B, or C and I disagree with his stand. Sometimes the disagreement is very public and extremely heated. But I know where he

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130638453370902892005-10-29T19:02:00.000-07:002005-10-29T19:14:13.383-07:00

The Flag of Truce and SungenisGiven everything that is going on with Matatics, and the fact Sungenis is in the best position to respond to it, I would like to propose a temporary LEI moratorium on attacking Sungenis. The situation is reportedly worse than it appears and to his credit Sungenis has taken the most solid lead in addressing it. Let's lay off Sungenis while he's addressing the

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130626273330355352005-10-29T15:45:00.000-07:002005-11-02T18:44:12.586-08:00

On Doctrinal Teaching, Theological Interpretation, and Other Nuances:(Dialogue With Pete Vere, Matthew, Hibernius, Jim Scott, JDobbs, and the webmaster of Lidless Eye Inquisition)The whole subject of Gerry Matatics, the Feeneyites, Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood, etc., has gotten quite a conversation thread going. For the sake of greater exactness and also to avoid clogging with a long

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130528472449306842005-10-28T12:40:00.000-07:002005-10-28T12:41:12.460-07:00

Points to Ponder:"The unhistorical are usually, without knowing it, enslaved to a fairly recent past." [C.S. Lewis]

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130503465231036242005-10-28T05:38:00.000-07:002005-10-29T18:09:01.140-07:00

Sungenis on MataticsAs a few people misunderstood the earlier version of this blog entry, thinking I was slamming Sungenis, I decided to remove the attempt at humor and rewrite the blog in a manner that expresses my thoughts more clearly. So here are the four points I was trying to get across:1) It personally does not bother me that Sungenis is a geocentrist. While I disagree with him over this

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130472419485025032005-10-27T21:00:00.000-07:002005-10-28T06:49:16.453-07:00

Gerry Matatics Reportedly Comes Clean vis-a-vis Benedict XVII just asked Gerry Matatics if the following letter was legit. He responded: "That will take a long conversation to answer and explain. Can I call you back? I'm in the middle of a project." "I'm not looking for an explanation. I'm just trying to authenticate it. Did you write this email to the Diamond brothers?""As I said, I cannot

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130380253908441052005-10-26T19:30:00.000-07:002005-10-26T20:16:38.136-07:00

Responding to an Email Challenge:(On Issues Pertaining to "Traditionalism" Falsely-So-Called)This post is a response to an email sent to the webmaster of LEI about eight days ago. Their words will be in blue font and the source they sent to me in black font. My sources will be in darkblue font.Hi Shawn,Can you refute this?Hello XXXXX: I already know before reading this that I have responded to

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130272715423566042005-10-25T13:37:00.000-07:002005-10-25T14:20:16.646-07:00

Why There Are Not More Tridentine Masses in Many Dioceses:(Aka "One From the Vault" Dept.)I figure that title oughta get plenty of message box feedback ;-){1} To make a distinction between the two different persons I am quoting at this time, black and blue fonts will be used. Oh and readers should not presume from what I am about to post that I necessarily agree with all of, much of, or some of

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130196480199973302005-10-24T16:23:00.000-07:002005-10-24T16:59:42.380-07:00

On Anaphoras in General: A Look at Ancient Eucharistic Prayers - VA quick recap on the anaphoras we've looked at:Anaphora of St. Serapion. The oldest untouched eucharistic prayer that we know. It's author is Bishop Serapion sometimes called Serapion the Scholastic, who was Bishop of Thmuis a suffragan See of the Metropolitan See of Pelusium in Lower Egypt. It follows the Antiochene family

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130120710030581462005-10-23T19:00:00.000-07:002005-10-23T19:25:10.036-07:00

On Anaphoras in General: A Look at Ancient Eucharistic Prayers - IVThe Anaphora of St. Mark has come to us much like the Anaphora of St. James in a highly developed state which can hardly reflect the primitive form of this liturgy in the details. Nevertheless, whatever the influences of development (which are clearly Eastern in character) the structure of the anaphora is so unique to Christendom

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130024095647862242005-10-22T16:34:00.000-07:002005-10-22T16:34:55.646-07:00

Proposing Anew A Question I Asked Two Years Ago:On Modernism

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130024009569829632005-10-22T16:33:00.000-07:002005-10-22T16:52:07.873-07:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition (Part V):This is what I have achieved thus far in updating the weblog you are reading -essentially from late October 2004 through the end of March 2005. The next installment in this series will be posted sometime in November.To start with, I have added to the side margin a "previous posts" feature that will list the last ten post threads. That will assist the

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1130017441447009482005-10-22T14:43:00.000-07:002005-10-22T17:46:32.846-07:00

More on the Ottaviani Intervention, the Sitz im Leben of Paul VI, and the Influence of Cardinal Ottaviani:(Dialogue with Kevin Tierney)This is to some extent an extension of what was noted in a previous posting to this humble weblog on the subject of the Ottaviani Intervention. Kevin's words will be in black font.Musings on the Liturgy: How to Handle DifficultiesI like the title :)One could say

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129934962546010292005-10-21T15:42:00.000-07:002005-10-21T16:59:51.256-07:00

On Anaphoras in General: A Look at Ancient Eucharistic Prayers - III.So far we’ve looked at the Anaphora of St. Serapion and the Anaphora of St. Hippolytus. We’ve done so in a rather perfunctory manner admittedly, as we are primarily interested in the structure, institution narrative, epiclesis, anamnesis and commemorations which we shall talk more about in later installment. The Anaphora of St.

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129789318199653522005-10-19T23:14:00.000-07:002005-10-21T16:57:45.863-07:00

On Anaphoras in General: A Look at Ancient Eucharistic Prayers - II.In the first post of the series we took a look at the Anaphora of St. Serapion of Thmuis. That particular prayer is later in origin than the Anaphora of St. Hippolytus but it survives untouched and so is probably an earlier prayer than that commonly attributed to St. Hippolytus. In the work Apostolic Tradition we have the most

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129663164504044102005-10-18T11:52:00.000-07:002005-10-18T12:25:15.536-07:00

On Anaphoras in General: A Look at Ancient Eucharistic Prayers.My thanks to everyone who has contributed to the discussion in the thread on the validity of the ICEL form of consecration. It seems there is quite a bit of interest in the subject and so I thought perhaps some follow up discussions would be both beneficial and of particular interest to the readers of LEI. I can’t propose to do proper

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129413033986812842005-10-18T11:45:00.000-07:002005-10-18T19:35:02.706-07:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition (Part IV):The following represent additional truncations from the side margin made earlier today (in chronological order):Yes Virginia, Fr. Nicholas is Suspended - written for The Wanderer March 6, 2003 (Pete Vere JCL/Shawn McElhinney) [>>>] On "Looking Before One Leaps" (Pete Vere) [>>>]On Reading Non-Catholic Spiritual Books and Sin--Parts I-II (Apolonio

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129413078254781252005-10-15T14:42:00.000-07:002005-10-15T15:13:51.513-07:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition Part III:This is a list of "points to ponder" threads that have been removed from the side margin and relegated to the archives:Points to Ponder - From Ven. John Henry Cardinal Newman (I. Shawn McElhinney) [>>>]Points to Ponder - on the SSPX (Pete Vere) [>>>] Points to Ponder - From St. Opatus of Milve (I. Shawn McElhinney) [>>>]Points to Ponder - From

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129400542475145132005-10-15T11:20:00.000-07:002005-10-15T15:09:08.323-07:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition Part II:To update the readers a bit, of the 149 threads I mentioned which were subject to re-evaluation, I decided not long after this posting to consolidate obvious series threads at LEI the same way I do at my main weblog. This means going through the posts of the others and linking obvious series threads through one another and deleting various threads from

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129324475893823022005-10-14T14:14:00.000-07:002005-10-14T14:14:35.900-07:00

"I Heard It Through the Grapevine" Dept.(On the Upcoming Vernacular Translations of the Roman Missal)I am not sure if this is true or not but I have heard through the grapevine that the new ICEL translations are a lot better...due I am sure in no small part to the placing of ICEL under direct Holy See supervision back in 1999 but I digress.Nonetheless, here are apparently the proposed versions of

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129234486392313082005-10-13T13:13:00.000-07:002005-10-13T13:14:46.400-07:00

Points to Ponder:(On the Errors of Modernism and Fundamentalism)The twin errors of Modernism and Fundamenatlism are what occurs when one severs the connection between historic CATHOLIC Christianity and its history. In both cases, the historical heritage of the Christian faith is discarded in favor of man-made systems that tickle men's ears. As such they are nothing more than forms of Pelagianism.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129152596430245352005-10-12T14:18:00.000-07:002005-10-18T15:02:24.033-07:00

Quaestio UnusWhether Hic est enim calix sanguinis mei, qui pro vobis et pro multis effundetur in remissionem peccatorum (this is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant. It will be shed for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven) is a valid form for consecration?Obj. 1. It seems that the aforesaid form of the consecration is not a valid form, for as St. Thomas

Keith Kenneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10178114244521738788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1129143577715220192005-10-12T11:58:00.000-07:002005-10-12T12:08:15.523-07:00

"Pie Iesu Domine, Dona Eis Requiem" Dept.With this ceremony of incense and chant, I the Sovereign Thane and Lord High Executioner of The Lidless Eye Inquisition point the readers to his email address and weblog link in the side margin; thus hereby solemnly installing Keith Kenney as an inquisitor at this humble weblog in perpetuity all things to the contrary notwithstanding.

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128978701236684252005-10-10T14:08:00.000-07:002005-10-11T17:04:54.316-07:00

The Rosary Letter and Its Critics:(Guest Editorial by Fr. Thomas Carleton)Those who have read my weblogs are aware that I run guest editorials at times. One of those who has had guest editorials published at Rerum Novarum as well as The Lidless Eye Inquisition is Fr. Thomas Carleton. This editorial will be duplicated at the Friends of La Nef weblog and is on the subject of the "rosary letter" by

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128862007616535932005-10-09T05:43:00.000-07:002005-10-09T05:46:47.623-07:00

The Lefebvrite slope to Sedevacantism"So perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the Pope is a heretic, is apostate."What's interesting in reading this piece is that the Archbishop gives you the sense he is not opposed to sedevacantism in theory, but rather he's just hesitant for the time being to make that kind of public pronouncement.

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128781645410681572005-10-08T06:58:00.000-07:002005-10-08T07:52:37.663-07:00

Was Lefebvre a Sede-Vacationist?Five years ago, I predicted that in terms of schismatic traditionalism the sedevacantists would within forty years (a generation in Holy Scripture) surpass those who held to an SSPX/Remnant/CFN "pope-sifting" position. Five years later, I wish to take back this prediction. I think we will see sedevacantists unthrone the other rad-trads by the year 2015. In the

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128732818112144342005-10-07T17:51:00.000-07:002005-10-07T17:59:47.936-07:00

Announcement of a New Member to The Lidless Eye Inquisition(With Solemn Incardination Included)It seems appropriate to note that Keith Kenney has received his own inquisitional tribunal here at the Lidless Eye. It was initially offered with the idea of discussing philosophical issues but Mr. Kenney expressed no interest in doing that here at LEI. However, when it was offered for him to posit

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128621606759026912005-10-06T10:55:00.000-07:002005-10-06T12:03:28.013-07:00

Updating the Lidless Eye Inquisition (Part I):I decided to do this update in sections so that it gets done in a timely manner. So in this one, I have decided to note the threads which were added or abrogated thus far.Added Links:Greg Mockeridge's new (as of April 2005) weblog Cooperatores Veritatis.Abrogated Links:Basically, I was recently told how to add a pull down menu of the archives so the

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128573382074178702005-10-05T21:24:00.000-07:002005-10-05T21:43:50.846-07:00

"You are the reason we are sedevacantists"Ouch. A lot of the sedevacantist responses to Chris Ferrara have been pretty sloppy. The main notable exception thus far has been Fr. Cekada's piece about the cardboard pope. Here's another notable exception in my opinion, namely, Joseph C. Maurer's "Opposition to the Anti-Sedevacantists". Joseph gets off to a strong start with the following insight

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128481887929257622005-10-04T20:10:00.000-07:002005-10-04T20:11:27.936-07:00

Points to Ponder:(On Receiving the Sacraments)No matter how beautiful one may find a form of a sacrament, it is not worth sinning to receive it. Work towards the promotion of those forms of sacraments within the Church if one desires. The Sacraments are also God's food to us. Sometimes we may not like the food, but in some cases it would be necessary, and what we thought would not be pleasing to

Shawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128436853580328652005-10-04T07:38:00.000-07:002005-10-04T14:47:21.646-07:00

[An edited version of the following article is scheduled to appear in this Thursday's Wanderer.]Of Canons and CultureSedevacantists at the Gates? Pete VereAlmost fifteen years ago, I assisted at a Tridentine liturgy for the first time. I was seventeen and the liturgy was offered by an old French-Canadian priest who always insisted upon high Mass. The Latin chant, the golden vestments, the rich

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4132728.post-1128306685775523412005-10-02T19:26:00.000-07:002005-10-02T20:24:35.903-07:00

Daily Catholic's alleged aparitionist pastWoah! Matt Abbott just unearthed some interesting allegations concerning the past reported activities of Michael and Cyndi Cain of the rad-trad Daily Catholic fame. Here's a sample:"Cyndi also announced specific messages had been received for the instigation of a special refuge center and a new order of nuns. It would seem there is a need for the laity

Pete Verenoreply@blogger.com